[ImageJ-devel] Naming [was: Re: [fiji-devel] RegionOfInterestCursor considered misnamed]

[Aivar Grislis]

Maybe ImageDataset?  (ImagingDataset?)  Otherwise it sounds like it 
might be a database library.

On 10/12/10 8:51 AM, Stephan Preibisch wrote:
>
> Hi Barry,
>
> I do not like NumericDataset because the it is not necessarily 
> numeric, it can be everything, including labels, sequences and so on....
>
> But if we simply remove it just "Dataset"  remains -- this is what it 
> basically is. Maybe this is not a bad idea....
>
> Steffi
>
> *From:* Barry DeZonia [mailto:bdezonia at wisc.edu]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 6:28 AM
> *To:* Stephan Preibisch
> *Cc:* Andreas Maier; imagej-devel at imagejdev.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ImageJ-devel] Naming [was: Re: [fiji-devel] 
> RegionOfInterestCursor considered misnamed]
>
> I sent this to the wrong list earlier. Apologies if this is noise. I 
> had proposed something simple like NumericDataset as an alternative.
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Stephan Preibisch 
> <preibisch at mpi-cbg.de <mailto:preibisch at mpi-cbg.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> First of all, I do not like "grid" too much as it assumes uniformly 
> arranged
> data which is not necessarily true. Although it is right now to be fair :)
> At the end it also not necessarily an image, it might as well be a DNA
> sequence for example. So if we try to be exact, we should rather name it
> something more generic like Collection, maybe something from
> http://www.dict.cc/?s=ansammlung? Right now, I find "pool" appealing...
>
> Let's discuss it next week when Curtis is in Dresden...I am optimistic we
> will find a solution!
>
> Have a nice day,
> Steffi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> <mailto:imagej-devel-bounces at imagejdev.org>] On Behalf Of Andreas Maier
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:36 AM
> To: imagej-devel at imagejdev.org <mailto:imagej-devel at imagejdev.org>
> Subject: Re: [ImageJ-devel] Naming [was: Re: [fiji-devel]
> RegionOfInterestCursor considered misnamed]
>
> Hi,
>
> why not use the term "grid"?
>
> Best,
>
> Andreas
>
> Am 11.10.2010 18:34, schrieb Grant B. Harris:
> >  Stephan,
> >
> > "Domain" is appealing in that it can be interpreted broadly - images
> > and signals can "be in" the spatial domain, frequency domain, or
> > wavelet domain.  And it doesn't have any implied dimensionality
> > (unlike "space" which has some connotation of only 3-D).
> >
> > Also, I like the idea of a sub-interface called `Tensors' for a
> > discrete regular grid.
> >
> > - Grant
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/2010 4:17 PM, Stephan Saalfeld wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> I vote for interface "Tensor".
> >>>
> >>> The misnamed "imglib" is a tensor lib.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor :
> >>>
> >>> "... tensors in general can be considered as a multidimensional array
> >>> of numbers"
> >>>
> >> ... which is true for only the most basic concepts to be expressed by
> >> the intended interface `Image'.  Already a sparsely sampled space 
> is not
> >> a tensor any more, neither is a 3d-scene description or a
> >> hyper-spherical mask (actually anything that is not a box and 
> discrete).
> >> Yes, you can sample these Images in a discrete raster but you don't 
> have
> >> to.  Positionables in real space (Interpolators) are the most trivial
> >> example.  The Iterator already does it's own magic.
> >>
> >> The true meaning of the interface Image is that it spans and limits a
> >> function-space or domain, so we could call it `Function', `Space' or
> >> `Domain', great for math-agnostic developers learning the API (though
> >> not as horrible as LocalizableByDimCursor ;)).  `Tensors' could then be
> >> a sub-interface that guarantees that the samples are on a discrete
> >> regular grid of a box.
> >>
> >> I completely agree that it sucks to collide with java.awt.Image.
> >> Besides, I am quite sure that, in the global Java namespace, there is
> >> little room for non-colliding names except we call it a silly name.  I
> >> am pro:
> >>
> >> Img (favorite), Domain (promising collisions), Space, Scene, Function
> >> (best choice but promising collisions and missleading expectations).
> >>
> >> The most recent developments are tracked in the branch sampler-link
> >> (which stems from sampler but got rid of the links...) where 
> development
> >> was recently stopped for too long time by the silly CellContainer bug
> >> that came from master but I was searching in the changes...
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Stephan
> >>
> >>> Albert
> >
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