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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">Dear All-</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">Thanks for your support, enthusiasm, and your patience on the arrangements on this meeting. There have been alot of people to track. Finally, here are the
details:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060"><span style="">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">First meeting will be Nov 12-14 in Dundee. We’ll start first thing in the morning on the 2th, so plan on arriving Nov 11, or Nov 10 if necessary. As most,
but not all people could attend then, we’ll schedule a follow-on <b>remote</b> meeting (using VoIP, shared screens etc.) in December, to follow up on any issues. We have access to Webex, Adobe Connect and Jabber, IRC and others. We can decide how we want
to run that later, based on what we need. </span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">Wilma Woudenberg will make all travel arrangements for the November meeting. She’ll be in touch soon with more info. Please do respond to any queries from
Wilma for details as soon as you can.</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">All funding will be from Euro-BioImaging WP11 meeting funds.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060"><span style="">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">Current proposal is to use the scijava resources for all pre-meeting discussion and code sharing. See:<br>
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<a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/scijava"><span style="color:#002060">https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/scijava</span></a><br>
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<a href="https://github.com/scijava/roi-model"><span style="color:#002060">https://github.com/scijava/roi-model</span></a><br>
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This is not proscriptive— we just want something that works and is open and available. Scijava is there, in use, and until it breaks seems the right thing to use.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060"></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060"><span style="">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">Most important will be review and consideration of docs and other resources that appear on scijava BEFORE the meeting, so that everyone comes ready to work.
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">We will write a report on the output of these efforts, and include that in various reports that are part of Euro-BioImaging. This report will summarise the
problem, the activity, and reference the outputs in docs and software. All participants and PIs will be listed as authors. We can decide whether that should also be published separately later.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">Just so we are clear, this is NOT a PI meeting (with lots of high level talks, PPTs, and people doing their emails), but work focussed on the technical details
and implementation of a common ROI specification for our domain of bioimaging.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">From here on out, all discussion and arrangements will appear on scijava.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">Thanks again. See you in a few weeks.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">Cheers,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#002060">P.S. Am sending identical email to CellProfiler, KNIME and Icy teams. They are separate because otherwise they get blocked as spam (too many addresses).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Jason Swedlow
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 12, 2012 11:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephan Preibisch; OME Nitpick; imagej-devel@imagej.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lee Kamentsky; Christian Dietz; Martin Horn; chaumont@pasteur.fr; Jean-Christophe Olivo-Marin; Wilma Woudenberg; Michael Unser; EUBIdundee; Anne Carpenter; tomancak@mpi-cbg.de; Antje Keppler; w.niessen@erasmusmc.nl; Michael Berthold<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ImageJ-devel] BioImaging ROI Spec</span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">Stephan Preibisch <<a href="mailto:preibischs@janelia.hhmi.org">preibischs@janelia.hhmi.org</a>><br>
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<b>To: </b>Jason Swedlow <<a href="mailto:j.r.swedlow@dundee.ac.uk">j.r.swedlow@dundee.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>OME Nitpick <<a href="mailto:ome-nitpick@lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk">ome-nitpick@lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk</a>>, "<a href="mailto:imagej-devel@imagej.net">imagej-devel@imagej.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:imagej-devel@imagej.net">imagej-devel@imagej.net</a>>,
Lee Kamentsky <<a href="mailto:leek@broadinstitute.org">leek@broadinstitute.org</a>>, Christian Dietz <<a href="mailto:christian.dietz@uni-konstanz.de">christian.dietz@uni-konstanz.de</a>>, Martin Horn <<a href="mailto:martin.horn@uni-konstanz.de">martin.horn@uni-konstanz.de</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:chaumont@pasteur.fr">chaumont@pasteur.fr</a>" <<a href="mailto:chaumont@pasteur.fr">chaumont@pasteur.fr</a>>, Jean-Christophe Olivo-Marin <<a href="mailto:jcolivo@pasteur.fr">jcolivo@pasteur.fr</a>>, Wilma Woudenberg <<a href="mailto:W.Woudenberg@dundee.ac.uk">W.Woudenberg@dundee.ac.uk</a>>,
Michael Unser <<a href="mailto:michael.unser@epfl.ch">michael.unser@epfl.ch</a>>, EUBIdundee <<a href="mailto:EUBIdundee@dundee.ac.uk">EUBIdundee@dundee.ac.uk</a>>, Anne Carpenter <<a href="mailto:anne@broadinstitute.org">anne@broadinstitute.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:tomancak@mpi-cbg.de">tomancak@mpi-cbg.de</a>"
<<a href="mailto:tomancak@mpi-cbg.de">tomancak@mpi-cbg.de</a>>, Antje Keppler <<a href="mailto:keppler@embl.de">keppler@embl.de</a>>, "<a href="mailto:w.niessen@erasmusmc.nl">w.niessen@erasmusmc.nl</a>" <<a href="mailto:w.niessen@erasmusmc.nl">w.niessen@erasmusmc.nl</a>>,
Michael Berthold <<a href="mailto:Michael.Berthold@Uni-Konstanz.DE">Michael.Berthold@Uni-Konstanz.DE</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [ImageJ-devel] BioImaging ROI Spec</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">On Oct 8, 2012, at 17:15 , Jason Swedlow wrote:</span></p>
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in particular biological microscopy. I am cc'ing Michael Unser, Wiro Niessen and Antje Keppler on this email for reasons that I will describe below. I've also included representation from OME, ImageJDev, KNIME, Icy, and CellProfiler.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">We now have an opportunity to finish this specification. This follows from meetings sponsored by Euro-BioImaging (<a href="http://eurobioimaging.eu">http://eurobioimaging.eu</a>),
and in particular The Data Management Work Package (often referred to as "WP11"), led by Wiro and Michael, and which I, through our work on OME, contribute to. Through WP11, we have funds to sponsor a meeting that moves a common ROI spec towards completion.
The idea is to have a common specification, and example "proof-of-concept" software implementation(s) in at least a few of our projects, so that a region defined in one image software package can be used by another. The emphasis is on transport and interop,
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etc., but more of a developer meeting or "hackathon", that has been so successfully used by the ImageJ/Fiji teams and others. We need to work through the specification (ideally making some progress beforehand using the various electronic tools we all know
and love), and then get at least rough implementations in place.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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just a place to start. Whatever we use, it has to be usable for modern code development (in my opinion, that means, it has to be github or better, but other opinions welcome). Obviously other resources can link to this.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">On this page are Josh Moore's notes from the Barcelona mtg. With Lee Kamentsky's permission we can add his SpaceROI.xsd (email from 30 April), or a more recent
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others. I believe there is also an ImageJ hackathon looming. So far there is strong preference for the November date. Obviously minimising trans-ocean flights helps productivity and keeps us all in good graces with our families. Wilma Woudenberg will send
out a poll and we can try to get this nailed down. If those dates don't work, we can go sooner or later, so speak up, but would be great to get this done before end of 2012.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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has been used for some discussions. This problem will get worse when we need our various developers to talk to each other. I know many of the OME devs read the ImageJdev list, but that is not universal. Note that some of the email lists included require
registration, so do we use scijava@googlegroups?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">Note: I'm partial to Dundee, since we have to pay for everything, so it saves admin hassle, but if this can be solved easily, then that's fine. Wilma will take
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">We've worked together well in the past, so hopefully we can get this done, and build something that will truly help our scientist users.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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