Hi Jay,<br><br><br><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Anyway, not sure if IJ2 is the place for this kind of development, but it is an intriguing possibility.</span><br>
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</span>I think IJ2 is the perfect opportunity for the types of functionality you describe. We just haven't had time to add it yet. Like I said, we want to have a plotting API whose data structures are not tied to any particular user interface. We have a general-purpose Display framework for this already, and work continues to improve it for beta2. Adding the plotting structures is a matter of defining a few new classes for it, and implementing the Swing-specific UI frontend that responds to display events when they are broadcast.<br>
<br>If you have some time and would like to get involved in the development, let me know, and perhaps we could have a Skype chat about it. Otherwise, we will have more for you to try by beta2 or beta3.<br><br>Regards,<br>
Curtis<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Unruh, Jay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jru@stowers.org">jru@stowers.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So if there is no intrinsic plotting utility, is there any way to access plots (or their data) from macros or plugins?� That is perhaps my main complaint about using JFreeChart (that and no log axes for some reason).� I currently use my own version of Wayne�s PlotWindow which I then access from other plugins via reflection (not the best way, I know).� Wayne doesn�t want to support it because of lack of backward function compatibility, but perhaps IJ2 is an opportunity to implement this in a more robust manner.� This approach has been very rewarding.� For example, I can do some really cool things like create dynamic histograms where I can change the bin size on the fly, visualize thresholds via a 1D or 2D histogram, etc.� It becomes easy to implement some of the gating that people use for cytometry analysis for example.� Anyway, not sure if IJ2 is the place for this kind of development, but it is an intriguing possibility.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>�<u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jay<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>�<u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:ctrueden.wisc@gmail.com" target="_blank">ctrueden.wisc@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ctrueden.wisc@gmail.com" target="_blank">ctrueden.wisc@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Curtis Rueden<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Unruh, Jay<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:imagej-devel@imagej.net" target="_blank">imagej-devel@imagej.net</a>; Grant Harris<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ImageJ-devel] plot window support<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Jay,<br><br>On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Unruh, Jay <<a href="mailto:jru@stowers.org" target="_blank">jru@stowers.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Firstly, is there a good way to search this list (other than downloading all of the text)?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately, the only way to do this is using a search engine such as Google.<u></u><u></u></p>
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For more information, see:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">� � <a href="http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030520" target="_blank">http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030520</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Secondly, (and I would know this if I could search the list) has there been any discussion of plot window support in ImageJ2?� The beta version I downloaded as is doesn�t support it�perhaps because it relies on an awt panel within the imagewindow frame, but perhaps there is awt support somewhere that I�m not seeing.<u></u><u></u></p>
</blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>There are plans to create a UI-agnostic plotting system, which will be driven by JFreeChart for the Swing UI, but pluggable differently for other UIs.<br>
<br>However, you is correct that at the moment, there is essentially no facility for plotting, other than legacy support for IJ1 plugins, which is limited and sometimes non-functional for custom AWT-based windows.<br><br>
-Curtis<br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Grant B. Harris <<a href="mailto:gharris@mbl.edu" target="_blank">gharris@mbl.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
Jay --<br>The Analyse::Histogram plugin uses JFreeChart �(I wrote an earlier version of it.) �You might have a look at that to see how you might use it in a plugin. �I believe it is our intention to use JFreeChart as the default plotting system for the �Swing-based implementation (But I may be corrected on this by people still more involved in the design ;-) �I'd be interested to follow how you might use it and to he of help, if I can.<br>
-- Grant<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u>�<u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Unruh, Jay <<a href="mailto:jru@stowers.org" target="_blank">jru@stowers.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Firstly, congrats on the beta release.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">�<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Several questions after my first download:� Firstly, is there a good way to search this list (other than downloading all of the text)?� Secondly, (and I would know this if I could search the list) has there been any discussion of plot window support in ImageJ2?� The beta version I downloaded as is doesn�t support it�perhaps because it relies on an awt panel within the imagewindow frame, but perhaps there is awt support somewhere that I�m not seeing.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">�<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Jay<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>�<u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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