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    Thanks, I suppose if you wanted to look at how things are in the
    code base, I'd appreciate it, but it's certainly not necessary. I've
    been following the discussion and have kept silent mostly because
    Curtis has described the situation correctly. We designed the
    overlay / ROI framework specifically with the OME schema in mind so
    that our overlays could both serve as image annotations and
    n-dimensional delineations of the space in which the image resides.
    Eventually, we should have full support for all attributes in the
    OME model and for all shapes in the standard and adapters that allow
    their creation and editing.<br>
    <br>
    --Lee<br>
    &nbsp;<br>
    On 6/23/2011 6:04 AM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
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      cite="mid:E8ED2724-925C-4890-9A52-2C2E129D16EF@lifesci.dundee.ac.uk"
      type="cite">All cool. &nbsp;A bottle of whisky for the best suggestion
      for "M".
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      <div>Lee, if there's anything you want the OME team to look at,
        just shout. &nbsp;I think most are now on imagejdev.</div>
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      <div>Thanks again.</div>
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      <div>Cheers,</div>
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      <div>Jason</div>
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            <div>On 23 Jun 2011, at 01:04, Johannes Schindelin wrote:</div>
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              <div>Hi Jason,<br>
                <br>
                On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Jason Swedlow wrote:<br>
                <br>
                <blockquote type="cite">I want to discuss with everyone
                  one on this side, but I think there is <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">general agreement with all the
                  points you are making. &nbsp;The model ImageJ <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">uses for ROIs (or anything else)
                  must deliver utility for ImageJ devs <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">and users-- that's its first
                  priority. &nbsp;I think the major point is that <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">we should build and implement
                  these tools mindful of common and <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">interoperable use. &nbsp;That sounds
                  like what is happening, and Lee's work <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">to date sounds great. We'll look
                  at it and report back. &nbsp;In any case, I <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">doubt we can completely avoid
                  adapting one to another. &nbsp;I believe we <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">should treat the willingness to
                  consider and plan for adaptability as a <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">good thing, and the basis for
                  future cooperation and collaboration.<br>
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                My experience is that when people are forced to adapt
                two paradigms into <br>
                one, either the outcome is better than any of the
                previous attempts, or <br>
                the people do not speak to each other anymore :-)<br>
                <br>
                Seriously again, I think that we're on a good track
                here, because what Lee <br>
                does is indeed the implementation side of something that
                is pretty well <br>
                defined in the OME standard.<br>
                <br>
                So all is good.<br>
                <br>
                <blockquote type="cite">On the wider issue of broadening
                  OME's scope, that is happening anyway, <br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">and will be done because it is
                  useful and for no other reason. &nbsp;We'll <br>
                </blockquote>
                <blockquote type="cite">likely agree to keep "OME", and
                  we can decide what M stands for later <br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">(maybe "Muhahahahahaha!").<br>
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                How about "Meh!"?<br>
                <br>
                :-)<br>
                <br>
                Ciao,<br>
                Johannes<br>
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