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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Barry,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I do not like NumericDataset because the it is not necessarily
numeric, it can be everything, including labels, sequences and so on….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But if we simply remove it just “Dataset” remains
– this is what it basically is. Maybe this is not a bad idea….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Steffi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Barry DeZonia [mailto:bdezonia@wisc.edu] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 12, 2010 6:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephan Preibisch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Andreas Maier; imagej-devel@imagejdev.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ImageJ-devel] Naming [was: Re: [fiji-devel]
RegionOfInterestCursor considered misnamed]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I sent this to the wrong list
earlier. Apologies if this is noise. I had proposed something simple like
NumericDataset as an alternative.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Stephan Preibisch <<a
href="mailto:preibisch@mpi-cbg.de">preibisch@mpi-cbg.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi everybody,<br>
<br>
First of all, I do not like "grid" too much as it assumes uniformly
arranged<br>
data which is not necessarily true. Although it is right now to be fair :)<br>
At the end it also not necessarily an image, it might as well be a DNA<br>
sequence for example. So if we try to be exact, we should rather name it<br>
something more generic like Collection, maybe something from<br>
<a href="http://www.dict.cc/?s=ansammlung" target="_blank">http://www.dict.cc/?s=ansammlung</a>?
Right now, I find "pool" appealing...<br>
<br>
Let's discuss it next week when Curtis is in Dresden...I am optimistic we<br>
will find a solution!<br>
<br>
Have a nice day,<br>
Steffi<o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:imagej-devel-bounces@imagejdev.org">imagej-devel-bounces@imagejdev.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:imagej-devel-bounces@imagejdev.org">imagej-devel-bounces@imagejdev.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Andreas Maier<br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:36 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:imagej-devel@imagejdev.org">imagej-devel@imagejdev.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ImageJ-devel] Naming [was: Re: [fiji-devel]<br>
RegionOfInterestCursor considered misnamed]<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
why not use the term "grid"?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Andreas<br>
<br>
Am 11.10.2010 18:34, schrieb Grant B. Harris:<br>
> Stephan,<br>
><br>
> "Domain" is appealing in that it can be interpreted broadly -
images<br>
> and signals can "be in" the spatial domain, frequency domain, or<br>
> wavelet domain. And it doesn't have any implied dimensionality<br>
> (unlike "space" which has some connotation of only 3-D).<br>
><br>
> Also, I like the idea of a sub-interface called `Tensors' for a<br>
> discrete regular grid.<br>
><br>
> - Grant<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 10/11/2010 4:17 PM, Stephan Saalfeld wrote:<br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>>> I vote for interface "Tensor".<br>
>>><br>
>>> The misnamed "imglib" is a tensor lib.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor</a> :<br>
>>><br>
>>> "... tensors in general can be considered as a
multidimensional array<br>
>>> of numbers"<br>
>>><br>
>> ... which is true for only the most basic concepts to be expressed by<br>
>> the intended interface `Image'. Already a sparsely sampled space
is not<br>
>> a tensor any more, neither is a 3d-scene description or a<br>
>> hyper-spherical mask (actually anything that is not a box and
discrete).<br>
>> Yes, you can sample these Images in a discrete raster but you don't
have<br>
>> to. Positionables in real space (Interpolators) are the most trivial<br>
>> example. The Iterator already does it's own magic.<br>
>><br>
>> The true meaning of the interface Image is that it spans and limits a<br>
>> function-space or domain, so we could call it `Function', `Space' or<br>
>> `Domain', great for math-agnostic developers learning the API (though<br>
>> not as horrible as LocalizableByDimCursor ;)). `Tensors' could
then be<br>
>> a sub-interface that guarantees that the samples are on a discrete<br>
>> regular grid of a box.<br>
>><br>
>> I completely agree that it sucks to collide with java.awt.Image.<br>
>> Besides, I am quite sure that, in the global Java namespace, there is<br>
>> little room for non-colliding names except we call it a silly name.
I<br>
>> am pro:<br>
>><br>
>> Img (favorite), Domain (promising collisions), Space, Scene, Function<br>
>> (best choice but promising collisions and missleading expectations).<br>
>><br>
>> The most recent developments are tracked in the branch sampler-link<br>
>> (which stems from sampler but got rid of the links...) where
development<br>
>> was recently stopped for too long time by the silly CellContainer bug<br>
>> that came from master but I was searching in the changes...<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>> Stephan<br>
>><br>
>>> Albert<br>
><br>
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